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Post by marybeth on Jun 14, 2014 10:15:07 GMT -8
What sort of divination methods do you all use?
I use Tarot for now, since that's what I've started with and it seems to work well(WHEN I've asked Them specifically to talk to me, or when I'm reading for others, but if I'm reading for myself and haven't somewhat formally asked specific Ones for help first, nope), but I'm not especially fond of it, to be honest, or at least not the Rider Waite deck I use, and am curious about other systems. I also occasionally have strange omens and coincidences, but no formal system of seeking them out or interpreting them, though I've tried asking for them and it rarely works. I typically just have to wait until They've got something to say.
Have any of you ventured to systems closer to the cultures of your Deities? Made or derived your own systems? How do they work for you? What was the process of finding them?
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Post by moonwolf23 on Jun 14, 2014 12:18:01 GMT -8
I like the pendulum for yes and no answers. Otherwise, I try to understand my dreams and read the energy patterns. I started out with playing cards(found a book in my school library and Tarot used to be the start of playing cards as well, if I remember the history) and that worked ok,but I find the symbolism a bit to heavy for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 4:43:28 GMT -8
I use Saxon runes because Woden, and have got good results with them so far. The only other divination systems I use are Tarot and oracle cards. I use them because they work for me, more than anything else.
I can't actually remember what first drew me to Tarot, though. I don't know why I decided I needed to have a deck to do divination with. But I got one, and then a few more, and I appear to be good at using them, so. *shrugs* It helps me discern messages from gods if I need advice or clarity. That's mostly what I use it for.
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Post by Wynn Dark on Jun 26, 2014 5:47:42 GMT -8
I tend towards using bones for divination, working on whipping up a system specific for Priapos now (slow but steady progress, it'll happen, it will *maddened look*)...ahem. While I'm not well versed in them I'm fond of using dice for divination as more often than not they make a sort of sense to me, I typically use them for divination involving the ancestors and keep a set of bone dice on my alter to them.
I've used a special (to me) coin as a yes-no divination piece before with decent enough results, I'm still slowly becoming more accustomed to using the Greek alphabet oracle (using sheep knucklebones), and recently I've picked up a system of using plain playing cards that is really starting to click. While I have a few tarot decks, none of them really work for me, but the regular cards feel right.
No...I don't have a fondness for different divination systems, not me.
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Post by marybeth on Jun 26, 2014 17:52:51 GMT -8
Wow, I'd love to hear more about the Priapos system when you get it worked out. Also, just about Priapos and your relationship in general. You're the first I've heard from who had Him as a primary focus. (I can't think of anyone at the moment who has said they paid cultus to Him at all, actually, but that's probably not the case!) I've been thinking about trying the Greek alphabet oracle. What's the learning process been like for you? Any interesting "quirks," or strengths over other kinds? Also, do you listen to Wyrd Ways? Since the last episode I've been *really* excited about P. Sufenus Virius Lupus' system based on the Ephesia Grammata.
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Post by IvyMerlot on Jun 27, 2014 5:21:23 GMT -8
The only form of divination I've used is the Raider-Waite tarot, but I'm a bit out of practice so I'm not as good as I used to be. One of the things I don't like about tarot is that you have to shuffle the cards really well, when you're doing multiple readings. Otherwise your reading may not come out right. Lately I've become interested in learning how to use dice for divination.
Where can I find more information on learning the Greek alphabet method of divination? That sounds interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 7:17:28 GMT -8
My best method for shuffling Tarot cards for self-divination (i.e. for when I'm reading for myself) is what I call 78 card pick-up. Chuck the cards around and let gravity shuffle them for you. I do it on my bed so the cards don't get damaged. Works wonders. I usually do it more after I've been playing Solitaire with my Tarot decks, and they're all in order, so it makes sure the deck is properly shuffled first time round. I find my runes are less fussy about doing multiple readings at once, though.
I've also played around with using dice for divination, too. I somehow acquired a D12 and a D20, and I had half a thought of combining them with some D6s to make a Tarot-based system, but it kind of never got finished. At least, I think it was a Tarot system? I can't really remember anymore. I might go back and take a look at it and see if it's complete enough to share. It was an interesting exercise at any rate.
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Post by Haloveir on Jun 27, 2014 20:11:07 GMT -8
Has anyone ever tried divination by using ink in water or a crystal ball? My husband gave both to me as a gift (a crystal ball and a special bowl), and I've wondered about the success rate others might have had with it. I've heard they're fairly tricky.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 21:54:57 GMT -8
I've never used them, mostly because I am terrible at scrying. I've done the staring at the flame thing, and it just doesn't work for me. I've never tried it in water, but I doubt I'd be any better at it. I've only managed to see something once, accidentally, while looking at incense smoke last month at the start of a ritual. Saw deer running through the smoke towards me. I would try again, but I have a feeling it's the sort of thing that'll only happen for me when it's needed. I don't think I'll ever be able to force myself to make scrying work. But IDK. I suppose you'll only ever know if it works for you is if you try it and see for yourself.
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Post by marybeth on Jun 28, 2014 9:49:08 GMT -8
Where can I find more information on learning the Greek alphabet method of divination? That sounds interesting. This is a website I found a bit ago: web.eecs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/GAO.htmlHaving not practiced it myself I can't make any specific comment on it. Anybody else here tried it? (WynnDark has a spotty connection and may not be able to answer for a bit.) I feel like scrying is kind of like meditation in the sense that you can do it for years before you get significant results, depending on how you're wired, how regularly you practice, etc. I've done little scrying and I don't know that many people who do personally, but it's probably really worth it if you don't mind possibly waiting a really long time to get something from it.
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Post by IvyMerlot on Jun 28, 2014 11:13:47 GMT -8
Thanks Marybeth! When I was in HS going through my Wicca phase, I tried scrying a few times. It wasn't for me. I was also in HS when I noticed I was more comfortable with tarot.
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Post by Wynn Dark on Jun 28, 2014 13:43:49 GMT -8
I really ought to listen to Wyrd Ways but that connection being what it is...
Anyway, I still don't have the Greek alphabet oracle down to the point that I can just look at the bones and know the meaning. However I was using the system without having much of a relationship with Apollon at the time. That is a relationship that I intend to work on and I think it'll work better better that way as He is the god most associated with the system.
As for the divination method for Priapos I am basing the tech on Mongolian shagi divination (sort of) with the use of four knucklebones with symbolic associations for each side of the bone, depending on which symbols show in what combinations the "answer" will be a four line stanza of a 35 stanza poem to Priapos, all of which will be ran by the god using other systems, possibly other diviners (not dividers auto-correct!), etc. I don't expect to have at up and running real soon.
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Post by marybeth on Jul 12, 2014 8:42:46 GMT -8
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Post by IvyMerlot on Jul 12, 2014 9:30:34 GMT -8
Nice!
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