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Post by marybeth on Jul 6, 2014 12:41:31 GMT -8
Hey guys! How's life? What's been going well in your practice lately? What are you a little stuck on?
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IvyMerlot
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Post by IvyMerlot on Jul 7, 2014 11:26:14 GMT -8
Hi! I took my time to think about this before I reply. Aside from being more consistent in my practice. I tend to worry a lot about the proper pronounciation of the original Greek names and epithets for the Gods. Some names or epithets are easier for me to pronounce than others. Another thing that I've been thinking is what to do with food offerings and libations. I live in an apartment so it isn't possible for me to burn the offered food or pour a libation in the earth. What should do? It doesn't feel right to throw it out in the trash. Eating it seems wrong too.
Also this may sound silly but I always get tongue tied the times I've said my prayers out loud. Maybe it's because I'm used to being in my head. That's a habit I'm trying to break now.
So yea those are my stumbling blocks in my practice.
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Post by Wynn Dark on Jul 7, 2014 12:12:40 GMT -8
Praying out loud, that too is something I find difficult but also very much necessary. For me the biggest stumbling block right now is connecting with the local spirits, getting to know the land I live on well enough to build up trust. That's all rather hindered by being away from the property for at least nine hours five days out of the week and usually gone for at least half of the remainder, which doesn't leave much time to connect. It also doesn't leave much time to develop systems of/profeciency in divination systems, which presently is my only means other than omens to really communicate with said beings.
I do notice that if I miss one of my devotions during the week I tend to feel it, both physically and emotionally, it's a drain if I Don't worship and it tends to be a self-feeding one I have to pull myself out of from time to time.
IvyMerlot: Do you live near a park or woods that your offerings could be taken to? Handing over your offerings to the land carries its own set of possible issues depending on your location but I find that such is usually the best way to go about it. There is also the possibility of certain (or all depending) offerings being 'fed' to an undersink compost system that could then feed plants in your care, some such offerings can be poured straight into plants so long as they aren't alcohol or don't greatly change the PH of the potting soil for the worse.
In addition: Ecstatic worship, this is something that is important to me and I think to the gods I worship. It's also something I've never been able to really accomplish, getting into the headspace seems to be a really serious problem for me. Anyone who is particulerly experienced with any ecstatic techniques, that is willing to discuss them, I'd be willing to take any advice one has to offer.
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IvyMerlot
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Post by IvyMerlot on Jul 8, 2014 17:03:10 GMT -8
Wynn Dark: I live in a concrete jungle but I do have plants in my care, two different types of ivy for now. Making compost is something I haven't thought about honestly. I'd really appreciate any advice you could give me on that, if it's alright with you.
I've always been attracted to ecstatic worship. However I know I'm not ready to fully emerse myself in it. It's something I'd like to experience but also frightens me a little. I do like dancing for my Gods, so I stick with that for now.
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Post by Haloveir on Jul 10, 2014 4:47:25 GMT -8
I'm about to move into a duplex in a new city, and I'm trying to put together ways to connect with my new local land/house spirits, as well as ways to say goodbye to the ones I'll be leaving behind. The move is rather sudden, but good, as my husband and I had been hoping to find a new place to rent that would allow large dogs.
The house was a church before it was converted, so it's doubly tricky, as I'll have to find ways for any Christian-oriented spirits to co-mingle with the Pagan-oriented spirits that will be coming with me.
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Post by marybeth on Jul 11, 2014 20:29:49 GMT -8
I am going to reply to everyone in a single post, which will work out perfectly and not be confusing at all, I'm sure. IvyMerlot, I usually dispose of my offerings by wrapping them in a grocery bag before putting them in the trash. Especially with you living in crazy-urban-area, that may be a better solution, and I have not had any problems with this. If you were going to compost in your house, I would think a small vermiculture bin would be the best solution(worms, yo!), but that's somewhat limited in terms of how much and what kinds of food you can put in at a time. Plus you need to give the soil to somebody, or use it yourself!  I think it'd be awesome if you decided to do that and made it work. I have never tried it(just researched it a bit while considering it at one point), so I can't offer any advice. But yeah, I feel like keeping offering leftovers separate from the trash is the best many of us can do. Truth be told I have trouble with Greek epithets and names of deities, too.  I figure that is something I will work on and study for eventually, but I just don't have the time for now. I think praying out loud is *very* important. Gods are not reading your thoughts all the time(in my personal experience, and I think I've read things in the past about how you were supposed to pray out loud back in the day, too, but I have no links or names and YMMV!), and also I feel like it is good just to not have inhibitions about talking openly with Them on principle, in my personal opinion. I have always had the hardest time praying out loud in front of others though, because it was(is) so very personal to me. I'd rather talk about my sex life sometimes, and I'm a pretty private person. A struggle of mine, for sure. I am sad to say that I have little to no experience with slipping into ecstatic states, myself. Would certainly LIKE to know more. I always felt like a group something would facilitate that best for most people, but I know it's not the only way. Wow about moving into an old church!! Please do share about that after you've had time to work on things! I almost always move into some apartment with some little nasty I have to force out, but that's a new one for me! Good lord, that must mean a lot of cleansing. Well, *this* week I've been struggling with the urge to sit on my computer, eat chocolate, and waste time after work everyday instead of working on music and meditating because my job is borderline soul-killing and does not pay well enough(probably everyone here's problem, also) and I feel like I have to have recovery time, but lately I've also been considering ancestor-honoring, especially those ancestors of disciplines rather than blood, and having absolutely no real idea of how to connect or start that sort of practice. I've also been thinking about how one might directly work with one's creative spirit/daemon other than doing the work said daemon spurs one to do, and again not really having any idea where one might start with that.
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IvyMerlot
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Post by IvyMerlot on Jul 12, 2014 9:18:23 GMT -8
Thanks so much for the advice on the food offering-I can't believe I didn't think about that before! Lately I've been trying to get in the habit of praying out loud. For me it feels like I'm over coming my shyness and becoming more comfortable in my practice. Last night I acted out a little anecdote for Hermes-it was about a personal experience. At first I felt a little silly about what I was doing. But I just pushed that thought out of my mind and went with it  . If there's one thing I've learned so far is to take it day by day and not beat myself up if I get something wrong  Kudos on trying to take a break from the computer, I know I spend way to much time on Netflix. I also try to find other more productive things to do with my time-mostly exercise.
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