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Post by MadGastronomer on Oct 11, 2013 16:26:36 GMT -8
Anybody else do any fiber arts, especially weaving or spinning? (Probably not, but it's worth a try.)
Weaving was such an important part of everyone's lives before the spread of power looms. There's myth, lore and tradition associated with looms and weaving in every part of the world. Spinning, too. (And since it took significantly longer to invent a way to mass-produce yarn and thread than weave, so people spun for until even later, as part of a piecework system.)
But every time I google around for stuff on paganism/polytheism and weaving, what I get is weaving used strictly metaphorically, with occasional mention of wheat weaving or some other type of craft that isn't weaving cloth. Spinning is much the same.
Weaving is so very easy, and while a floor loom is very expensive indeed, frame looms -- down to things like plastic potholder looms -- can be extremely cheap, and things like weaving cards and backstraps are very cheap, too. Many kinds are very easy to build yourself. You can even make one out of the back of a cereal box. You can make a spindle out of a wooden toy wheel and a bit of dowel, or an old scratched-up cd and bit of dowel.
Occasionally, I run into other pagan-types in craft spaces, like Ravelry, but we don't often talk about how weaving and spinning related to magic and religion.
It makes me feel a bit lonely.
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Post by moonwolf23 on Oct 11, 2013 17:54:03 GMT -8
I quilt. I haven't done anything spiritual yet with it. Ok, I am, once I find it, quilting around a dragon that will be on the wall as protection. But no weaving yet.
20,000 years of womens work was an amazing book and made me feel connected to the women that came before me. But no on the weaving or spinning. I may get called later though.
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Post by MadGastronomer on Oct 11, 2013 18:54:49 GMT -8
If you do start, let me know. I have a whole list of resources, and will send you spare fluff and weaving cards and whatever else if I have any! (This is a tradition. If somebody sends you fluff, yarn, tools, whatever when you're starting out, you do the same for other people starting out when you can. My mentor gave me piles of things, and I try to pass it on. A few months ago, I sent a friend who was taking up spinning a box full of purple fibers and a couple of spindles. It's just what you do.) I may not have a lot to spare right now, but I'll share whatever I can.
Quilting is fun. I haven't done any in ages, but I did a fair amount in my teens. My adopted grandmother was an avid quilter, and I still use the quilt she made me twenty-five years ago. She did the most beautiful white-on-white work.
I've never considered spiritual aspects of quilting, but magically, I found it very good for defining boundaries and binding things. It would be easy to work sacred symbols into the quilting, though.
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Post by fearlesslyonwards on Oct 11, 2013 20:25:16 GMT -8
Me! I spin (badly) with a drop spindle, I knit, crochet, embroider, quilt, cross stitch and I string malas. I want to learn wheat weaving when I can find a ready supply of wheat AND have somewhere to store it so my moronic cat doesn't eat it.
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basicmanfitz
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Post by basicmanfitz on Oct 11, 2013 22:48:21 GMT -8
I've just begun stringing mala beads, although I seem to have problems keeping my personal set of beads together for more than 1 month at a time. I can't figure it out... I'm using the right hardware but my Soft Flex keeps on breaking at the crimp bead. The only thing I can think of is that I carry my beads in my pocket every day, and am always fingering them absent-mindedly. Then again, they should be able to handle that, especially with Soft Flex.
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Post by fearlesslyonwards on Oct 12, 2013 0:29:10 GMT -8
I've just begun stringing mala beads, although I seem to have problems keeping my personal set of beads together for more than 1 month at a time. I can't figure it out... I'm using the right hardware but my Soft Flex keeps on breaking at the crimp bead. The only thing I can think of is that I carry my beads in my pocket every day, and am always fingering them absent-mindedly. Then again, they should be able to handle that, especially with Soft Flex. What bead material are you using? When I make malas with stone/glass beads, I use chinese knotting cord - the sharp edges of the beads cut through wire rather quickly with daily use, or so I've found.
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Post by MadGastronomer on Oct 12, 2013 2:49:01 GMT -8
Blast. I had a whole reply, but it vanished into the ether.
Fearlesslyonward: Yay! Always glad to met another spinner. What do you like to spin? Ever do any work with it?
Basicmanfitz: What Fearlessly said. Cord is better for something like that. (I do beaded and wander wire jewelry as well. Not mala, though.)
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Post by basicmanfitz on Oct 12, 2013 3:29:46 GMT -8
I've just begun stringing mala beads, although I seem to have problems keeping my personal set of beads together for more than 1 month at a time. I can't figure it out... I'm using the right hardware but my Soft Flex keeps on breaking at the crimp bead. The only thing I can think of is that I carry my beads in my pocket every day, and am always fingering them absent-mindedly. Then again, they should be able to handle that, especially with Soft Flex. What bead material are you using? When I make malas with stone/glass beads, I use chinese knotting cord - the sharp edges of the beads cut through wire rather quickly with daily use, or so I've found. I never would have thought that cord would be stronger that wire. And yes, I have suspected that the rough edges of the beads were causing the problems. I'm going to have to look up Chinese knotting cord now. I use semiprecious stones. This particular strand is actually one I purchased from a craft fair, and uses lapis, carnelian, and obsidian. I think that its the rough edges of the lapis that are doing the most damage.
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Post by MadGastronomer on Oct 12, 2013 7:44:06 GMT -8
It's not strength in the sense of tensile strength, it's abrasion-resistance.
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Post by moonwolf23 on Oct 12, 2013 8:19:39 GMT -8
Can you use copper wire?
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Post by MadGastronomer on Oct 12, 2013 16:59:52 GMT -8
For mala? I wouldn't recommend it. Copper holds a shape, so it wouldn't flow nicely through your hands for meditation, it'd take a shape and you'd have to bend it every time you shifted your grip enough. It's more abrasion resistant than flex, but bending it that often will fatigue the metal, and it will break from that. (And sterling and gold-filled wire will work-harden from a lot of bending, and get harder and harder to bend, and then will still eventually break.)
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Post by Drekfletch on Oct 13, 2013 19:51:53 GMT -8
But every time I google around for stuff on paganism/polytheism and weaving, what I get is weaving used strictly metaphorically, with occasional mention of wheat weaving or some other type of craft that isn't weaving cloth. Spinning is much the same. ... Occasionally, I run into other pagan-types in craft spaces, like Ravelry, but we don't often talk about how weaving and spinning related to magic and religion. I don't do any myself, but I knew a woman who would knit a capelet every year for her Brigid's Brat. After leaving it out on Imbolc for blessing, she would unravel it throughout the year to wrap pieces of it around injuries.
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Post by MadGastronomer on Oct 13, 2013 20:39:27 GMT -8
Now that is a cool idea.
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Post by zephrene on Oct 15, 2013 19:13:09 GMT -8
Hi! I quilt and make dolls, and have done spinning and knitting and a bit of weaving in the past but haven't picked them up again lately. My best friend has begun weaving on a rigid heddle table loom, though - I let her borrow my copy of "Women's Work: The First 20,000 Years" and now we are contemplating the sacred aspects of the practice. I really want to start weaving, and would love some recommendations. I thought about setting up a vertical hanging loom to start. I have always been more interested in tapestry weaving than anything else, but there are a lot of options.
I love the idea of devotional quilting. My mother and I have a treasure trove of family quilts, fabrics, beads, etc. that we could incorporate in crafts, so I am always dabbling in new and different things.
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Post by fearlesslyonwards on Oct 16, 2013 0:13:28 GMT -8
Fearlesslyonward: Yay! Always glad to met another spinner. What do you like to spin? Ever do any work with it? I just got some wool fluff from the Lincraft shop in a rainbow of colours, and I'm messing about with it, to see what I can do with it. And should I produce something I can knit with, I'll knit it into... something? As you can tell, I'm flying blind on this. Also, I don't exactly know where it ended up when I packed everything, so most of my crafting is 'on hold' for now 
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