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Post by Lomaz on Jan 13, 2014 10:54:24 GMT -8
So, I've recently come to the conclusion that animal sacrifice is a vital part of the tradition I'm trying to cultivate. I've none quite a bit of research and taken steps to secure the training necessary to become a humane and proficient sacrificer. I was wondering if anyone on this forum has experience with this. Where does one go for training? What are your experiences?
I began to think about getting trained as a sacrificer while thinking about my desire for specialized devotional training. I'm not really cut out for the more commonly understood religious specializations withing polytheism (priest, shaman, spirit-worker, oracle, diviner), but would like to have specialized training which could be of service to the religious community. What are some other specializations that are needed within polytheism? For those who ARE priests, shamans etc., what are some special devotional fields you wish more laypeople had training in?
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Post by Wynn Dark on Jan 13, 2014 12:12:37 GMT -8
Personally I think that we need more people that have the sort of training needed to be a sacrificer. Killing an animal quick, clean, and with as little stress to that animal as possible is something that takes training and some practice to confidently get it right...and that is before you add anything specifically associated with the religion of the sacrificer such as taboos on certain methods of killing, prayers and when to say them, offerings to be made to the animal, what parts of the animal are to be used by man (and who) vs what parts are to go to the Gods, how those parts are to go to the Gods, etc. etc.
I recommend Basic Butchering of Livestock & Game by John J. Mettler, though I don't agree with some of the methods used that book will give you a good basic understanding. There are other books and aids of that sort that should probably be consulted. If you can find someone that practices Halal or Kosher butchering, see if they would be willing to teach, they may not but they may have resources that you would be hard pressed to find otherwise.
Having someone that has butchered animals (specifically livestock) who is willing to teach you how to do it, that you know is making a point of quick, clean killing, would be of immense help though.
Before you ever consider sacrificing for a group, you had better be Very competent and confident in your abilities. Understand that you are probably going to mess it up at least once and that this can be a fairly unpleasent experience...always have a back up, always be ready to strike again, do Not let that animal suffer longer than an initial mistake on your part will cause and do your damndest to make it right in whatever way you can.
I don't have a lot of intimate experience in what you are wanting to do, but I do have some, and that will only grow as my homestead takes on livestock to go along with the garden. Perhaps you'll get the training and get that competence ahead of me, but I'll be sure to pass on anything I glean from my own practice to you in the future if you're interested.
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Post by Lomaz on Jan 13, 2014 13:44:40 GMT -8
Thanks for the reply. I do have some experience in slaughtering outside of a religious context. We'll be raising chickens for meat come springtime, so I'll be getting more experience shortly. As i said, I've taken the first steps to getting the in-person training I would like to have. I have found a relatively local fellow who I have contacted and hope will agree to give me some training, or at least let me observe him performing blot within heathen custom. I'll definitly check out the book you recommended. Thanks.
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Post by Admin on Jan 13, 2014 16:27:32 GMT -8
Here in Portland Oregon, we have the Portland Meat Collective. They teach butchering, charcuterie, and meat handling. My husband just took a rabbit class where they learned about raising rabbits and killed and dressed one as part of the class. Anyway, this collective has a kickstarter to start collectives in other states, including Vermont. Google Portland Meat Collective for more. There may be a similar organization in your area already. As for the spiritual aspects of sacrifice, you may want to a) look back into history for eyewitness accounts of this sort of thing (I'm thinking Greek writings) and b) look at what modern cultures that practice animal sacrifice do.
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Post by Wynn Dark on Jan 14, 2014 5:58:16 GMT -8
That sounds like an awesome organization to be able to link up with and learn from Admin. Lomaz Keep taking those steps and you'll get there, the fact that you have a Heathen in your general area that is willing to teach is a boon, that faith (I'm generalizing I know) tends to in my experience have a Lot more people with the sort of training needed than other polytheist folk. I hope to see sacrificers coming up in the Hellenic tradition more and more though and once I'm raising livestock will be joining that stream of tradition. Good luck and let us know how your learning goes!
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Post by Lomaz on Jan 14, 2014 7:31:35 GMT -8
Thank you. I will most certainly look into it.
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Post by Lomaz on Jan 14, 2014 7:39:44 GMT -8
Wynn Dark: Being heathen has its advantages. for one thing there is a much smaler chance of putting people off with the very idea of animal sacrifice. In my experience the vast majority of heathens will acknowlege that animal blots are a valid form of devotion even if it is not something that they themselves practice.
My hope is that I am able to get to a point where I can provide sacrifice as a service for the broader polytheist community, either myself or by providing training to others. How great would it be to have lineages of sacrificers who could assist in the development of all our many traditions?
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Post by Wynn Dark on Jan 14, 2014 7:44:11 GMT -8
Honestly the thought makes me increadibly happy and hopeful for the future, that such lineages could be brought about.
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Post by Lomaz on Jan 16, 2014 9:59:51 GMT -8
What are some other religious specializations that could be activated with a minimum of infrastructure? I was thinking that it would be fairly straightforward to form a 501c3 to certify clergy in simple ministerial (as opposed to priestly) functions. I'm imagining a specifically polytheist organization dedicated to certifying individuals to solemnize wedding vows etc. As I was mulling this over, I was struck by how thoroughly doable this would be. No need for a network of temples, official denominations and the like. Would any other US polytheists be interested in forming a working group to explore this topic?
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Post by Lomaz on Jan 16, 2014 10:13:55 GMT -8
Other potential specializations I can think of: funerary specialists, midwives. What about ritual tattooers?
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2014 13:15:35 GMT -8
Definitely tattooers! Midwives as well as Doulas (these are birthing assistants and mothers' advocates who work within the medical system as well as outside of it). End of life and grief counselors. Bards and singers.
This is a really good idea. There are so many areas of the country where you can't just assume the midwife or breastfeeding coach or tattoo artist is going to be open to your faith, let along willing to work with the demands of your religion. There's also an opportunity to partner or connect with other organizations (like the Green Burial Council) with a likely overlap of concerns.
A couple of questions? How do you validate that the membership are actually in tune with alternate faiths? How do you track location and licensing (many professions are licensed by state)? How do you fund the infrastructure (most organizations collect a membership fee or dues from the members, but you have to be able to prove that there will be a business advantage for those who make their living at this work)? How do you link people to the membership?
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Post by spookymuffin on Jan 23, 2014 9:45:06 GMT -8
Good for you! This is a form of specialized training that is sorely needed. I don't think I've heard of a single animal sacrifice that went well and much of the blame for that seems to lie with the people doing the killing. (I'll add that I've been vegetarian for 10 years and vegan for most of that time. Though I can't wrap my emotional mind around having to undertake this task I know that it's important to past and present polytheist practices. Plus I'm also being pulling in the direction of left-handy practices of a Goddess known for her love of meaty sacrifices. Hoo boy.) Other specialties....how about some more artists? Can't have too many artists capable of making awesome devotional art and ritual items. 
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