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Post by redeseeker on Sept 24, 2013 18:04:30 GMT -8
There is an odd vibe to Houston. For a major metropolitan area with multiple universities, there are very few Pagan/Heathen Friendly Stores. I moved here 9 years ago from Cincinnati, Ohio - a very closed-minded city. I was shocked to feel the difference between 'closed-minded' Cincinnati and Houston. Houston has nothing to compare with the Victory of Light Psychic Festival. The Cincinnati Pagan Pride Day included lectures on various subjects. Houston's Pagan Pride Day does not because there were too many arguments and hecklers.
All this and the odd vibe I feel makes me think there is some curse on Houston - or maybe a very very old protection spell that is still in force although the need has long passed. Has anyone had an experience like this? Any advice on what to do or not do?
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Post by marybeth on Sept 24, 2013 18:14:44 GMT -8
Welcome to the South, friend. : ( I don't know about Houston in particular, but I hear Texas has a pretty toxic environment toward those who are different, much like many parts of my state. I live in a pretty urban environment over here and have a Pagan coffee shop to be a fixture at, so nowadays I'm insulated from the worst of it, but in the past I've heard many an ugly thing from family, "friends," acquaintances, etc. Just seek out the most like-minded(or open-minded) people you can find. The one advantage to this kind of environment is that it does help communities bond.
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Post by marybeth on Sept 24, 2013 18:18:14 GMT -8
As far as any metaphysical weirdness associated with a whole city, I have no idea. It might be that the general area just doesn't agree with you very much. Divination?
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Post by roguebiologist on Sept 24, 2013 19:57:16 GMT -8
In terms of odd vibes, I've noticed something like that here in Australia. I've visited most of the capitals of the other states and Melbourne gives me a distinctly unpleasant sensation as soon as I hit the CBD or suburbs. It radiates hostility to myself and a few others who work with certain kinds of spirit or fae, which leads me to suggest that maybe it's not so much the area that is unpleasant as yourself being at odds with it?
In the case of my experiences with Melbourne, my sister, who now lives there, is totally ok there, so I thought I was imagining it at first, but other friends have noticed similar hostility, with one commenting that, "Melbourne is not a very friendly city to those who work with the fae." In my case, I'm fairly strongly connected to my city's spirits, and there's a bit of a notorious rivalry between my city and Melbourne, so I can't say I'm not surprised that the powers that be there don't exactly welcome me. Do you think something like that could be the case for you?
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Post by fearlesslyonwards on Sept 25, 2013 15:54:29 GMT -8
Roguebiologist - I moved to Melbourne in '99 from south-west WA (Bunbury, specifically) and the moment I set foot in the CBD and said hi to the place, ze grabbed me up in a hug and said welcome home. Flying into Melbourne, when I see hir, I actually tear-up in relief at being back where I belong. Going back to Bunbury, we're like old friends, hir and I, but ze isn't my home. I don't work with the fae though so maybe that has some bearing? Although, it just occurred to me that maybe if you work with the 'imported' fae, the land spirits might be a bit miffed? There's something for me to ponder  Redeseeker - the only advice I have is to be very polite to the city, and to ask hir what ze wants of you. Divination time maybe?
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Post by pthelms on Sept 25, 2013 18:36:49 GMT -8
I live about five miles from Detroit proper. The place isn't cursed so much as utterly damned.
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Post by roguebiologist on Sept 25, 2013 18:37:15 GMT -8
Fearlesslyonwards - Oh, that's interesting! I guess ze's a city that brings out strong responses in either direction then. :-) As for working with imported spirits and fae, that's true for some but not all of them. Some of them are attached to the city rather than the land, and so likely were born after the city came into being, and so would likely ping as very foreign to those from outside the city. Nearly all of those I work with are very territorial too - magpie for example. That said, I don't have that sort of reaction in other cities, just Melbourne, so I'm suspecting shenanigans because of the Adelaide-Melbourne rivalry. I can't think of what else it'd be to be honest.
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Post by fearlesslyonwards on Sept 25, 2013 20:00:10 GMT -8
Roguebiologist - you might well be right about the rivalry. It is something I will have to give much further thought to - when I don't have a screaming child in the house! I'm admittedly biased, Melbourne has been a home and safe haven to me since I got here  I've only passed through Adelaide (except for a 10 minute toilet stop on the greyhound bus I took to get to Melbourne in 99) and not stopped there long enough to form an opinion. One day, in the distant future, when I have money (haha!) I would love to travel a little and see what the rest of this country has to offer 
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Post by captainspellingerror on Sept 26, 2013 5:35:51 GMT -8
Can't say I have, no. Usually when I feel uncomfortable it has nothing to do with the area and everything to do with how I'm responding to the area.
Honestly, form what I read on your post I don't think Houston is cursed. I think that there is a dissonance and an uncomfortableness generated in your heart by the fact that there are far fewer Pagan and Polytheistic resources in your location. It makes us (as human beings) very uncomfortable and maybe a little sad to experience feelings of being in the minority with little to no back-up, representation, or support in the area. I think we would all be keen to examine if there are any possible reasons other than going 'it must be cursed' that would be more likely. If you can't put it to that point, figure out if it is the land spirits that you aren't getting along well with (some people are sensitive to their presence after all.) I know one woman who outright refuses to enter desert regions because the land spirits (however you call them) of desert like regions tend to have a very </i> tense <i> relationship with her.
Pthelms, I remember I went to Detroit about a year and a half ago and the whole place is just gloomy and sad. Having a wretched economy for years does that I guess. I must say though, rural Michigan in the winter is quite beautiful.
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Post by WordMorris on Sept 26, 2013 8:17:30 GMT -8
There is an odd vibe to Houston. For a major metropolitan area with multiple universities, there are very few Pagan/Heathen Friendly Stores. I moved here 9 years ago from Cincinnati, Ohio - a very closed-minded city. I was shocked to feel the difference between 'closed-minded' Cincinnati and Houston. Houston has nothing to compare with the Victory of Light Psychic Festival. The Cincinnati Pagan Pride Day included lectures on various subjects. Houston's Pagan Pride Day does not because there were too many arguments and hecklers. All this and the odd vibe I feel makes me think there is some curse on Houston - or maybe a very very old protection spell that is still in force although the need has long passed. Has anyone had an experience like this? Any advice on what to do or not do? I've lived in West Texas. I know it's like, ten hours from Houston, but as someone else mentioned. Yes. That's what it's like living in the south! unfortunately. =/
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Post by redeseeker on Sept 26, 2013 9:22:24 GMT -8
Thank you all for your insight and advice. I am a Northern Traditionalist in a non-Northern location. The Vaettir/Land Spirits may be 'vibing' at a different frequency.
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Post by lucky on Sept 27, 2013 8:45:54 GMT -8
the pioneer valley in western ma seems to me to be a little on the odd side. the catskills are a strange area. the everglades are spooky. the badlands are even spookier, the black hills there. anyway.
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Post by Indigo on Sept 27, 2013 22:11:07 GMT -8
Houston's pagan scene was very big back in the 90s--Pagan Pride Day was (apparently) huge, and more like Gay Pride than our modern PPD, which is more like an excuse for Wiccan-esque folks to take over a restaurant and sell gemstones to one another in secrecy. In the late 90s/early 00s (basically right before you got here, redeseeker), there was apparently a huge falling out, and the pagan scene here pretty much imploded.
It hasn't come back too much, mainly because all of the old leaders are still too reticent to get involved again, and everybody else is too afraid of losing their jobs to be out and open about who and what they are (which has always made me question the "pride" in Pagan Pride Day).
So it's not so much a curse as it is history. There are a few "pagan" shops--the Magick Cauldron in the Montrose is one (though the guy who owns it isn't pagan, and actually started the place so he could sell swords to the renfaire crowd, and the pagans just kept going there as well); Pixie's Intent is a small place on I-10W just outside the Belt, and is run by a friend of mine who is sort of a quasi-Wiccan/general pagan eclectic.
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Post by holdasown on Sept 28, 2013 4:25:14 GMT -8
When we moved into this house I thought maybe my neighbor practiced. Her wights were very protective and I usually don't "feel" them. When we went to introduce ourselves found out she's Jehovah's Witness. I have had people tell me some do natural healing. I know once we said hi and I made and offering to her wights with mine that feeling was gone. Other than that not really ever noticed anything like that.
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Post by redeseeker on Sept 28, 2013 8:06:27 GMT -8
Indigo - have you been to The Witchery on Galveston Island? Interesting place, but my favorite spot is a few doors down - the Mod Coffee House.
I did not know about the pagan in-fighting. The vibe feels like an old protection spell that is on 'auto-pilot'. I had trouble believing that although that was what my intuition was saying because the pagans/heathens I had med did not impress me as having the skill for such a spell - but if the working were highly charged emotionally, then maybe they could. It's food for thought.
What part of Houston are you in? My mailing address says Houston, but my physical location is Webster.
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