Good morning (or various other parts of the day) to you all. I thought I'd get the ball rolling with this, our first Theolog of the Month topic.
What are the ramifications of worshipping multiple pantheons, how does one go about it, what is it like when there are multiple pantheons in a house hold, how about pantheons that don't see eye to eye (is this a problem for anyone), and how does one handle honoring the Gods of the household when you have a polytheist and a monotheist living together?
Personally I don't worship more than one pantheon (at the moment, though any God walking through the door as it were will get their due), but my better half is a Christ-Follower and so that puts me in a bit of a quandry for how to properly honor her god as well as mine (Hospitality being as important as it is). So far this hasn't come up in any real sticky sort of situation and I've simply poured a little extra libation or burnt a bit more incense to honor all the gods of the household, not having a personal relationship with her God. That's worked as far as it goes, though it seems rather lacking. I'm sure that multiple pantheons are probably more common here, either in personal worship or household worship, so how does that get handled?
Post by spookymuffin on Feb 5, 2014 10:08:14 GMT -8
I don't exactly think I'm mixing pantheons as such, since the Powers I worship and work with on a regular basis are singular examples of their respective traditions. All the same, there's certainly diversity of context that has to be respected. So I use Hindu ritual forms when honoring Kali, Norse ritual forms for Loki, and for Santa Muerte I use offerings that she's known to enjoy. I tend to keep things fairly separate because I usually approach them all for different reasons. Separation is also helpful because there is such diversity in terms of philosophy and context that trying to mash any of them together would probably be unsatisfying to all concerned. (Not saying it couldn't be done, just that I don't really feel like trying to create an experience where everyone plays in the sandbox; everyone's happy staying more or less compartmentalized and I don't have an particular reason for trying to change that at this time.)
"What are the ramifications of worshipping multiple pantheons ...." -- One ramification or consequence is the realization of just how amazing and diverse the world really is. Polytheists like to accuse monotheists of being narrow-minded and absolutist, but I think polytheists can become ... well ... so ensconced in a single cultural worldview (Hellenic, Kemetic, Norse, et cetera) that it can a bit of a shock when one encounters another, different polytheist worldview. For example, the assertion that "the Sun is masculine and the Moon is feminine." Well, yes, in certain mythologies (Hellenic, Roman, et cetera) the Sun is linked to or considered a God while the Moon is a Goddess. But that is not the case in Canaanite, Japanese and various Baltic mythologies. And I think that shock, that eye-opening realization, can open one to a whole host of new perspectives, insights, experiences, et cetera.
"How does one go about it ..." -- Carefully. And as practically and pragmatically as possible.
"What is it like when there are multiple pantheons in a house hold ..." -- Hectic. Though I suppose it depends on whether one pantheon is dominant, and how/if/when holy days and obligations overlap. I've been Hellenic for a *long* time with a tangential interest in Egyptian Deities. Now, out of the blue, Odin and Frau Holle have shown up and I find myself setting up an altar to the Norse pantheon. *sigh*
"How about pantheons that don't see eye to eye (is this a problem for anyone) ..." -- Not a problem for me, but I am curious to hear from others. I was under the impression that it was more Deities within pantheons who had difficulties (family dynamics and all that) than Deities from different pantheons.
"And how does one handle honoring the Gods of the household when you have a polytheist and a monotheist living together?" -- Ah, that would be me. In our case, I have a room set aside for my altars and craft work. I also have "stealth" sacred spots all over the house, like the Hera icon in the living room; and my collection of polytheist literature is *everywhere*. Truthfully, it's not much of an issue for us -- maybe because my husband is a (mostly) live-and-let-live, non-church-going Christian.
spookymuffin Maybe it is a sort of 'keep folk in their seperate sand box' situation that would keep the peace the best. I think typically that sticking to ritual forms that They are familier with is probably best, or at the least polite when something else hasn't been requested or suggested to be acceptable.
lyradora A grand point you make about multiple pantheons (and their worldviews) being eye-opening, with some of those paradox easily enough making a logical mind twitch...but then the gods and paradox go hand in hand in my experience.
Get bitten by the Norse bug did we, I sort of know that feeling but so far have managed to not go cappering off to perform sumbels to the Vanir, I'm trying to get my devotional feet with the Hellenic gods first in an attempt to not bite off more than my unhingable (so my better half claims) jaw can chew!
""How does one go about it ..." -- Carefully. And as practically and pragmatically as possible." <-- This indeed.
As for living in a mixed Poly-Mono Theistic household, for the most part it isn't trouble on my end either, while I don't have a seperate room (160sqft cottage, all one room) I am slowly working on setting aside a part of the garden and all is well with that happening the process is only slow because of the amount of work that will be going in and the overall amount of work to do on the site.
Anyway, I'm sure that I'm making that particuler "problem" more a problem by trying to wrap my head around being hospitable to her God in a polytheistic manner, when at least according to the Bible (name your version) He's not real okay with that...then again maybe I'll just have to do some more research in that vein and see what happens.
Post by princesskls on Aug 15, 2014 19:53:14 GMT -8
I once tried to mix Roman and Greek pantheons with goddesses but it didn't work for me. I'm still considering sticking to my Christian pantheons but lately I've been thinking of adding Norse goddess Freyja to off-set some of the purity ramifications of the Christian pantheon. She, however, is the only Norse goddess I'm actually interested in learning about.
I'm curious what you mean by Christian pantheons? Are you talking about saints, angels, different aspects of YHWH, other deities that are present in ancient Jewish tradition, something else entirely that I'm not coming up with?
Post by princesskls on Oct 18, 2014 16:07:07 GMT -8
For me, it's more like Jesus and his mother Mary. I no longer see Jesus as God or YHWH, in fact I can't stand YHWH so I rather not worship him. I still pray to a God and Goddess in a sense but a more universal, loving god and goddess. I would be open to saints but the problem is, I'm not used to Catholic style worship although I've experienced some Episcopalianism while at my school. I find that they aren't very saint heavy and kind of Catholic-lite. I haven't incorporated Jewish tradition, although I'm interested in it. I was raised in a strict Baptist home with only some underground pagan influences from a relative who was also raised Christian like me. She did a mix of Wicca and chaos style magick. Basically a dark Wiccan. And she was very against the church and Old Testament style Christianity.
lyradora So about that not getting bitten by the Norse bug? Yeah...that happened, I've been well and truly bitten and I got directed that way by Priapus so I'm now juggling two pantheons plus the occasional nod to YHWH.
princesskls Interesting, I actually seem somewhat more drawn to parts of the Old Testament though that always has been through syncretic lenses really. I tend to think of YHWH in a somewhat Trinitarian manner though, so I have a hard time separating him and Jesus in some cases (but not all), would you say you see Mary as the Holy Spirit or is that all together something else in your practice?